Is the Wii really all it’s cracked up to be?!
When the Wii came out, I was the first to buy one, I was the first to sing it’s praises, and when push comes to shove, I was the first to become a Wii fanboy. Now that some time has passed, and I have sampled a good proportion of the Wii’s gaming offerings, I’d like to assess how it has changed my gaming life.
The biggest change that I think the Wii has made to my gaming life is that I want a 360 and a decent PC. I want a 360 NOW. And if I hadnt just bought a new decent PC and I could afford a 360, I would have one.
This may be a strange thing to say that the Wii has caused, but the reason for this is that I want to play some decent games. Don’t get me wrong, there are some great games on the Wii. Some great games that I can count on one hand. To date I think I have played approximately 50 games on the Wii, and I can safely say that I have played every single one of those until it bored me. The hand mentioned above consists of these games: Zelda, Wii Sports, Wario Ware, Mario Strikers and Resident Evil 4. But what have these games actuallygiven me?
- Zelda – great game, but havent I played it umpteen times before?!? And now that I’ve finished it, when will it be back in the blue illuminated slot of my Wii?
- Wii Sports – again, great, but really only one for when you have the mates around
- Wario Ware – i played this on the gameboy, then on the Gamecube. See Zelda and Wii Sports.
- Mario Strikers – frustratingly hard in the later stages on single player. Great with the mates.
- Resident Evil 4 – see Zelda and Wario Ware.
My point is, the truly good content on the Wii has been done before. I know what I’m hearing you say, “but you are missing x game”, but think about it, how many of those games that you put in the x space there havent come out on either the PC or the 360 in a BETTER version. And by better, I mean both Graphically, and CONTROLS.
But arent the Wii’s controls it’s selling point?! Yes. But they are also the bain of my life.
Take Rockstar’s Table Tennis for a case in point. This was a good, fun, easy going game on the 360. Stick it over onto the Wii and “Oooh, there’s waggly controls, we MUST use this”. No you must NOT. Just because the controls are there, does not mean you have to use them. Of if you must, at least give us the option to use it as a normal controller, or plug in a Gamecube pad or something. I dont want every gaming session to feel like a marathon. This is just one example, but there are hundreds of others.
Let’s get back to the 360. I want to play decent games. I want to play Bioshock. I want to play Gears of War. I want to play NBA Live 08… What, NBA Live is out on the Wii?!? I know it is. It just has POINTLESS waggly controls. It is not fun. And that’s what games are supposed to be! I want to play it the way I enjoyed it on the Gamecube. [nb. before the arguments ensue, I am well aware that it is a crime to group NBA Live 08 alongside the other two games listed]
And this is what it boils down to. There just isnt the content for Single Player gaming. The waggly controls work well for multi-player games and minigames, but what happens when you want to play on your own?
You get out the 360 or the PC, thats what you do.
So, to all you Wii/Nintendo fanboys out there, I’d ask you to assess your situation, and ask if Nintendo is really thinking of us gamers anymore, or is it thinking about our mums, sisters and or mates. I don’t know, but I hope that they get us back on track sometime soon.
So until Mario Galaxy proves to be as much of a let down as Mario Sunshine, and until Smash Bros. Brawl comes out, I’m off to play Bioshock, Half-life and Gears of War. Preferably without having to get armache.
October 23rd, 2007 at 22:49
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October 23rd, 2007 at 23:04
When the system launched last December and the day came to put down the cash or leave it these are pretty much the thoughts I had. As I looked ahead at the sparse 2007 releases and most of what was coming out was of no interest to me.
Going forward I see Nintendo attempting to placate the Nintendo faithful with Marios and Zeldas occasionally but right now the big bucks for them are in chasing the casuals.
And don’t get me started on third party support – you obviously had the guts to try more of these half arsed ports than most people could be bothered with.
Not being able to play Bioshock, Gears, Halo, Orange Box and the up coming Mass Effect – that would have probably killed me
October 23rd, 2007 at 23:11
But Bioshock, Half-life and Gears of War are all shooters. Is that all you want to play? Having seen John’s post on The Orange Box this evening, and given the popularity of Halo etc, maybe for a large number of people that is what they want to play. Personally, I couldn’t care less about FPSs and the only reasons I might want an XBox are for games like Guitar Hero and Project Gotham.
I fully agree that Nintendo has yet to really do something different on the Wii, and that that good games released so far have not shown us anything particularly new and spectacular. I for one am more optimistic than you in hoping that Galaxy will do the trick.
However, I challenge you to name many recent games that have really done something different, something new and interesting. And I don’t just mean shinier graphics. I don’t think this is a problem confined to one system.
So, are you sure it’s not just your gaming tastes that are changing? For me, Nintendo is still doing Nintendo stuff like it has been for years, and that’s why I have a Wii: they make the games that I want to play.
October 23rd, 2007 at 23:15
Well, John has mentioned Mass Effect, which i think is something truly new and original, as was Bioshock. I’ll come back to this tomorrow, but for now I have to go to bed!
October 24th, 2007 at 04:09
Any FPS on the 360 is released later the same year on the PC, or at the same time, so I see no reason to buy a 360.
I totally agree with Chris, I may not play my Wii as much as I played my GC or DC, but I like it a lot more. Everybody is different, to me, I could care less about graphics, they’re nice, I agree, but not critical.
Have even played Metroid Prime 3 yet? Seriously, it’s superb, if you want original, BWii should be interesting, I never played the original, but BWii seems to be a no-brainer rent.
I agree on the controls segment, but I also disagree:
When I got into a game, I really wanted to be in the game, and the Wii has really done that with me, MP3 I can’t really say is better than the original, but it’s the controls that make it one notch better, if they had used a classic controller or a GC, it would have been just as good, but not real enough.
Table Tennis seemed fun, and seems fun, but I never played it and I doubt I will.
October 24th, 2007 at 07:13
Rex firstly, can I say that I don’t dislike the Wii. I dislike the way it is used. I dont honestly see how you can say that for a games console you like a console you play less than other consoles more?! That seems like a bad argument to me, as surely a games console is there for playing?! And for MP3 and BWii, see my Zelda notes in the original post.
October 24th, 2007 at 08:03
new and original, as was Bioshock lol, it was a FPS what on earth was new and original about it? we have not moved on since Half Life 2 and that was years ago.
Anyhow as for the Micro Review, thats for wasting my time it just turned into Fanboy Rubbish which really shows you up as quite a tit.
The Hardcore Nintendo fans will always be and a site like this is just more troll bait, Nintendo are all about games, games that you may not like but games that only Nintendo can do.
Oh and by the way, as you are missing some key games there that leave the games you mention in the dust, i highly doubt you playing as much as 50.
In closing, Nintendo looks like it does not suit you so be a man and sell it and move on, i think you may think by doing this blog that you think you are bigger and smarter than you are, what on earth is the point of this?
If fans can support the Cube and N64 and survive that we can survive 360 fanboys that are really quite retarded.
October 24th, 2007 at 08:42
Well ‘So Funny’, I have no idea what you are talking about in regards to the ‘Micro Review’ – micro review of what?
And the fact you have left your name really shows that you respect your own comments, and doesnt show that you might be a bit of a tit yourself at all. (note sarcasm)
I also think that you are totally missing the point. You seem to have me down as a 360 fanboy, and I most definately am not. As I said at the start, if anything I would put myself as a Nintendo fanboy, and I am just questioning that.
And you highly doubting that I have played 50games is up to you. I have. Some i played for 10minutes, but that’s because they were rubbish (Cooking Mama or Transformers anyone?!).
If you want to slag things off, at least have the decency to leave you’re id so that people can respond in person.
October 24th, 2007 at 12:22
Some quotes and responses to this from the DVD Foums
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People’s response to the Wii is getting increasingly bizarre… you set up a website to talk about how the wii hasn’t panned out the way you wanted yet and how much you want a 360??? I think it may be time to put down the mouse/joypad and back away slowly.
Is anyone else getting slightly weirded-out by the amount of effort that people appear to be putting into this??
Well, i didnt exactly set up the website just to write about it – it was just something that I felt like saying, because it had been increasingly weighing on my mind. It didnt exactly take me that long to write the post – it was mostly taken from an MSN conversation I’d had with a mate!
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For balance, when you get your 360, I’d write a blog about how Halo and GTA are all well and good, but where is Mario and Zelda!!!1111
I totally agree, tho i’d miss Zelda way more than Mario. But now that i’ve finished it, it wouldnt be such a loss.
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The wii’s going through the same first year phase the DS had with developers just bolting on wiggly controlls because they can rather than because the game will benifit from them.
Hopefully there learning from their mistakes like they did with the DS.
I very much hope you’re right. Don’t get me wrong, the Wii has alot of potential, but i just dont think they are using it right.
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I absolutely love WarioWare yet its been a £4ish purchase of Paper Mario on VC which completely absorbed me and led to 20-25 hours of quality gameplay through to completion. Loved every second.
Well… I played that on the Gamecube, so that’s not really relevant to the Wii discussion
and finally:
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Maybe they can explain why, if the Wii is so bad, Microsoft are putting all their current effort into trying to capture its market ?
That’s the point tho isnt it – the reason the Wii is doing so well is that it is catering to non-gamers. They are forgetting about the people who made them who they are – people who want to sit down and play games for a good story, good gameplay and want to play them to relax.
I appreciate the Wii for the games that are fun (the five that i listed – plus paper mario, which i forgot), but there are far fewer than there are on other systems at the moment. I am the first to say that I hope they get out of the habit, I’m just worried that we’re nearly a year in and there are only a handful of games worth playing.
October 24th, 2007 at 22:02
First, I wasn’t arguing with you, I was saying that I enjoy my Wii much more than you seem to……
I played my GC and DC more because I had more games, but I enjoy playing my Wii more when I get a chance to play it.
Also, BWii isn’t even out yet, how can you say that it’s going to be recycled material.
October 24th, 2007 at 22:13
My point on that was that it’s a sequel, nothing more.
October 24th, 2007 at 22:37
So, you said you’d come back to this today, and you have; but there are still a couple of points you haven’t responded to I think, and on which I’d be interested to hear your comments:
I challenged you to “name many recent games that have really done something different”, to which you said that Bioshock and Mass Effect were “truly new and original”. Bioshock looks like a regular shooter to me (albeit a cool underwater one). I’ve not heard of Mass Effect before now and have looked it up: it does look interesting. But what I’d like to know is why these are more special than other games. Besides, you’ve named just two games, and I’m yet to be convinced.
Also, you didn’t respond to my slightly less direct question of why you’re only naming FPSs as games that make you want a 360, and my suggestion that your gaming tastes might just have changed a bit (which is not necessarily a bad thing).
October 25th, 2007 at 08:50
Dude I’m totally hearing you re. the controls issue. When I play Red Steel, why the fuck do I have to thrust the wii forwards to open a door? Can’t I just press a button?
Anyway, my thoughts on the Wii are this: it’s something different. If you enjoy console gaming, it’s unlikely to fill that x-shaped hole in your life, it’s more liekly to complement it.
But what I don’t get is the necessity to get the latest PS3/360 etc. I’d bet my bottom dollar you haven’t played every great game on the PS2, GC or Xbox yet. And technology hasn’t been a true “enabler” since StarWing came out a the first 3D game. Sure you might not get anti-aliasing and mulit-level dithering on your N64, but most “mature” gamers are above that.
So why not fill your console hole with something cheaper and more complete, and crack out the Wii when you need a gadget to impress your friends?
October 25th, 2007 at 10:38
Rex,
You and I, and indeed most of the people that comment here, were not really the intended market for the Wii. I faced the hoards and ran for mine on release day too. I think Wii Sports is amazing, I’ve got Zelda but hardly played it, and recently I bought MySims, (I’m a Sims nut, mock me
The Wii isn’t for hardcore gamers, it’s aimed at the masses of “casuals” and ordinary people out there.
Strangely enough, what keeps me going back to the wii is actually the interface. like XBMC on the original Xbox, it’s just really slick. I love the fact that it’s almost “instant on” an information appliance. The Wii is already a success sales/market penetration wise. I don’t doubt that Nintendo will continue to market quirky games, just as the software publishers will eventually get their act together and bring us more ports and the other shlock that exists for everything else. If you want a shooter how about Metroid 3?
That said I am looking forward to Spore, Mass Effect, and Galaxy
October 25th, 2007 at 10:39
Arse! Actually that comment was aimed at Gambit, so it goes…
October 25th, 2007 at 11:33
Chris
To address the “name many recent games that have really done something different” issue.
You need to pull your head out of your arse and go play these games we are talking about before you can comment on them. The fact that you think Bioshock is a regular shooter and that you haven’t even heard of Mass Effect tells me I can’t have a debate with you on this topic. To write off these games along with Portal, TF2 and HL2EP2 as unoriginal shooters is laughable. Go play em and come back, then we might have something to talk about.
Enjoy your Wii.
October 25th, 2007 at 12:07
Right, working backwards…
John: you crack me up mate.
Metroid, i look forward to playing. I didnt really like MP1 or 2, but maybe i’ll get on with this one. Mass Effect isnt coming out on the Wii, but spore and galaxy should be fun 
praxis22: The sims!?!?
Griff: Totally valid point. I find myself using the cube on my Wii more and more, and there are still some cracking games on there to play
Chris: other games that really have made an impact and not on Wii – Oblivion (RPG), Forza 2 (Racing), Gears of War (Shooter), Crackdown (Sandbox) to name a few I can think of at the moment.
October 25th, 2007 at 13:10
Gambit,
Unlike you I have a PC and a 360 too
But yes, “the Sims” I’m especially fond of the interior decoration meta-game, Though I’m a benign deity, They sleep, when, (and with who) they wish, I just tell them to clean up every once in a while and stop leaving the kids in the kitchen.
I don’t even send them out to work…
I suppose in common with “big Brother” most of the time it’s just more fun to lay back and simply watch the chaos unfold.
Most of the games you cite, are just to resource intensive for the Wii. It’s like complaining that your Mini isn’t a Mustang.
October 25th, 2007 at 16:01
praxis22: I’m not a casual gamer, I’m just very very busy right now, I just moved.
Back to Gambit:
Every system has a bad first year, the Cube had it, the PS2 had it, the Xbox especially had it, so did the 360, the PS3 and the Wii is having it too.
When I first got my cube, I only had MP, and I played it to death, and I still play it today, I agree that MP2 wasn’t as good, but MP3 is sure to please.
That said, you list games like Forza 2 and Gears of War and said that they make an impact, on what? I ask.
Forza 2, while it’s very fun, it’s just another racing game, I found it too touchy. I’ve played basically every racing game imaginable, and I still think to this day that the GT# and Mario Kart series are the most original and fun.
Gears of War is a third person shooter, that frankly seemed like it was made specifically to combat the game on the same engine, Too Human, which seems to have way more in depth story, cooler surroundings and made by the people who made Eternal Darkness.
I can’t say much on Oblivion, but I heard it has it’s faults.
Crackdown just seemed lame.
Back to BWii, you can say it’s a sequel, and totally dismiss it?
Not all sequels are like the first, the first was lacking a good control system to make it better, the Wii was that good control system.
And if you like FPSs, than the new medal of honor is supposed to be better than MP3, but I still think world war II is annoying as hell.
Mass Effect seems like a 360 counter to Metroid Prime, but who knows.
October 25th, 2007 at 19:50
John. Maybe you think you’re clever writing a scathing response telling me to pull my head out of my arse, but you’re missing the point.
Firstly, I am not trying to say that the Wii beats all or that nothing can be better than Nintendo. Of course there have been great games across the range of systems, and I am not denying that there are plenty of those that are worth playing that are not in the Wii, for instance.
Regarding shooters, you tell me that you “can’t have a debate with [me] on this topic”, and if you had said this in a less superior fashion I’d be inclined to agree with you, at least in part: if you’d read my first comment, you’d have noticed that FPSs don’t interest me in the slightest, so I’m not going to “go away and play them” like you tell me to. They just don’t appeal, and so in this sense I can’t tell you what the games are like. Which is why I was asking what made them different; they looked fairly standard to my uneducated eye.
My main point on the shooters though is that this genre seems to cover the majority of the games you’re suggesting (although Andy has now named a few others such as Forza and Oblivion). The games you’ve mentioned are good, maybe, but you guys still haven’t done anything more than name titles you think are special – you haven’t mentioned what makes them so truly different and new.
Frankly, I find your comments (along with much of what you write on your website) arrogant, pompous and smugly self-satisfied. I was joining in with genuine interest, to try and understand where Andy was coming from; I did not come here to slate what others had to say or to suggest that anyone with an opinion different to mine doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
As for your last comment – I do enjoy my Wii, thanks. Whether and to what extent you like the Wii I don’t really care, but adding this last line just makes you look stupid.
October 28th, 2007 at 04:47
I agree, with Chris, I came here with interest.
“You get out the 360 or the PC, thats what you do.
So, to all you Wii/Nintendo fanboys out there, I’d ask you to assess your situation, and ask if Nintendo is really thinking of us gamers anymore, or is it thinking about our mums, sisters and or mates. I don’t know, but I hope that they get us back on track sometime soon.
So until Mario Galaxy proves to be as much of a let down as Mario Sunshine, and until Smash Bros. Brawl comes out, I’m off to play Bioshock, Half-life and Gears of War. Preferably without having to get armache.”
First off, the first line in that extremely pompous rant was one of the funniest lines I’ve ever heard.
The second even funnier, contradicting the first line:
If Microsoft cared about it’s costumers more than Nintendo does, why don’t they fix the problems with the 360 to begin with, a little kid fainted trying to cool his 360 down, some guys 360 melted the back of itself, the Rings of Death happen all the time to most peoples, you spend 60+ on a game that your 360 engraves a perfect circle into. Why don’t they fix that?
I challenge you to come up with at least one good reason why they haven’t (Like a good company) fix the problems they have started.
Last:
Mario Sunshine, I admit, wasn’t everything it could have been, but I still enjoyed it.
And then about Galaxy, you brush off Galaxy the same way you brushed off Battalion Wars 2, comparing it to the original (or previous) title.
“‘Quote:
I absolutely love WarioWare yet its been a £4ish purchase of Paper Mario on VC which completely absorbed me and led to 20-25 hours of quality gameplay through to completion. Loved every second.’
Well… I played that on the Gamecube, so that’s not really relevant to the Wii discussion”
It is relevant, it’s a different game.
WarioWare got has scored some of the highest rankings of games on the Wii; WarioWare series was made for the Wii, it’s quirkiness and everything.
The same thing as Battalion Wars and Galaxy, you brush it off, because you played the GC title.
You sir, are in over your head.
October 28th, 2007 at 10:57
Come on now Rex, if i thought that being in over my head would bother me, i’d never have made the post.
The first quote you took doesnt make sense without the preceeding question “What do you do when you want to play on your own”.
I think you’re also missing the pont that I grouped *myself* in with the wii fanboys in that paragraph, for that is what i was/am. If it came across pompus to you, then that is fine, however I think you’ll find that the intention was more to insert some light heartedness.
Also, at NO point did i say that Microsoft cared about consumers more than Nintendo, and if I had, I would expect to be shot down. Nintendo do, and always have cared about their consumers more than any games company – the recent free Wii remote jackets are an example of this, and this is probably one of the reasons I am actually a Nintendo fanboy. I think unlike the rest of your comment, I totally agree with your points in that parahraph!
I can brush off Galaxay the same way I brushed of Battalion Wars 2, because firstly, they are just single games, and a single game doesnt make a console, and secondly, I havent played them yet, they arent out yet, so how can I really pass judgement based on those games?!!? And, ultimately, as I said, they are a remake of already successful franchises – money spinners, if you will. Of course, I’m not saying that this makes them bad, but I cant know yet!
And finally – your last paragraph – i was referring to Paper Mario, which is clearly the game he was talking about with a £4 purchase off the Virtual Console. This is an N64 game (yes, i got my console wrong in my response), so I was merely pointing out the the Virtual Cosole is churning out old games that we have played before on other systems, so cant really be included in a Wii Argument. As for WarioWare, i think you’ll find its in the list of 5 games that I really like on the wii.
So… You madam, have been shot down
October 29th, 2007 at 13:25
IMO Halo made the original Xbox, it was only one game, but I can think of only a few that bettered it
I don’t think any company has the consumers best interest at heart, all they want is your money. If this isn’t how they operate as a for profit business, they’re doing something wrong. I can certainly see the case for enlightened self interest, but you’re only ever as good as your last game in this industry, and gullible kids/teenagers aside, you don’t get too many bites at the cherry if you screw up.
Rex,
Crackdown was great, A little too short, but it had a little of everything, and the running and jumping about, especially finding inventive ways to enter and exit buildings, and getting from point A to point B quick was huge fun. I avoided most of the heavies on the last boss by jumping over from an adjacent building and blowing out a window. I also appreciated the free form aspect of it. It could have been crap, and people would still have bought it for the Halo3 beta, but the fact that it was actually a good game, was very much appreciated.
That said I also had a great experience on the cube with “Ace Golf” which was also a bargain bin affair. Kept me and a friend engrossed for about a month. There is a Zen to it, of picking the right club and then hitting it just right. Same as the volleyball game on extreme beach volleyball on the Xbox. fabulous when you get the timing right, and a real annoying when you get too fancy, and screw it up. Much like Wii tennis in fact.
That said I was amused to see that the cube actually sold on par with the original Xbox Number wise. Unlike Sony and MS, Nintendo make a profit on every box they sell.
October 29th, 2007 at 13:31
Lol – i had Ace Golf too – £1 from game pre-owned – was a cracker
October 29th, 2007 at 19:12
“I can brush off Galaxay the same way I brushed of Battalion Wars 2, because firstly, they are just single games, and a single game doesnt make a console, and secondly, I havent played them yet, they arent out yet, so how can I really pass judgement based on those games?!!? And, ultimately, as I said, they are a remake of already successful franchises – money spinners, if you will. Of course, I’m not saying that this makes them bad, but I cant know yet!”
When I first mentioned BWii (and MP3), you said for me to look at your line about Twilight Princess, I do say, just brushing off BWii and MP3 because you have “Played” them before.
Non of the Metroid Prime games have been reused and recycled, they’ve all pretty much been unique save for the various Metroid (series) given things.
You’re right, at the time of the post BWii wasn’t out yet, but it is now, however, the release is irrelevant.
A single game doesn’t make a console, however as praxis said, Halo made Xbox, without Halo, MS would have been screwed to oblivion.
Galaxy and BWii are sequels, you can’t pass judgment on them, and you shouldn’t, so why are you brushing them off?
November 3rd, 2007 at 12:40
A noteworthy opinion from a Bit-tech writer on a very similar topic can be found here: http://www.bit-tech.net/columns/2007/11/03/blame_nintendo_/1
November 8th, 2007 at 08:34
Again… it seems i’m not alone!
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2608-Zero-Punctuation-Zelda-Phantom-Hourglass
November 8th, 2007 at 18:52
Heh, I enjoyed that
He makes some fair points, and it is like every other Zelda game; it would be good if there was something a little different. That said, the control scheme is different, and makes the best use I’ve seen of the stylus on the DS. It’s also a kind of Zelda not seen before on a handheld (although it is, pretty much, WindWaker).
November 8th, 2007 at 19:01
Yeah, i know, i dont really agree with him totally, tho it was amusing. I’m a big zelda fan, and i dont really want to see too much change. Tho the points he raises aren’t dis-similar to some that i’ve raised here…
November 10th, 2007 at 09:00
Hey,
I do see your point Andy. I mean, I’m a huge Nintendo fanboy but I must admit that my 360 has seen more love this year, and at the moment I’m loving the Wii as my retro console due to the amazingness that is the Virtual Console! (Although not loving getting my ass kicked at Mario 3 by my fiance!)
I think a lot of the problem is that just as third parties were caught out by the success of Wii (so they didn’t start development on the console early enough) maybe Nintendo were as well…the line up has been sparse at best with quite a few hold overs from Gamecube being ported with added waggle. I mean, Mario Party 8 could have been an excellent title for the Wii but really didn’t use the controller in any brillant way.
That’s not to say that the lineup is poor – there are some excellent titles out there, both 1st and 3rd party including Trauma Centre, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Strikers, Super Paper Mario (the latter is a tad wordy, but still amazing and I’d recommend for those feeling a bit let down by the Wii).
We’ve also got some excellent stuff to look forward too in the next few weeks and months including Super Mario Galaxy (which looks amazing), Mario and Sonic at the Olympics (Wii Sports 2?), Super Smash Bros Brawl (I don’t think I need to say anymore – online battle Andy?), Mario Kart Wii.
The Wii isn’t dead yet! Developers cannot ignore how well it is selling, and will start to move their A teams to develop on it rather than pilling shovel-ware shite!
November 10th, 2007 at 09:32
Yeah, i take your point mate – there is some good stuff coming out soon, so hopefully things will pick up
November 11th, 2007 at 03:06
twilight princess and corruption… sucked.
i expect more from franchises that once were the joys from my childhood.
mp3 is mp1 with light gun controls, tp is ocarina with one animal form from majora…
and both have horrid graphics. nintendo, you sold out your fans.